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Pretty serious situation. For this airplane to crash immediately after takeoff tells me it had some obvious contamination that was either missed or ignored.

Looks to be pretty basic but in good condition. Just have to know when to use it. My deicing equipment during my DC3 days consisted of a broom and the ability to land on my feet when I slid off the wing.

Anyone who has done their time in Dubai with EK and recently returned home will tell you the same story. They’re glad to be out.

MCF has a produced many of Canada’s pilots and in recent years it’s been a pilot factory for the growing airline market in Asia. These young foreign pilots will go home with 200-300 hours and hop into the right seat of some brand new Boeing, Airbus or Bombardier jet.

Someone in Boeing sales needs to get out of the office. Boeing studying potential for just one pilot in plane cockpit Feb. 9, 2018 11:57 AM ET Boeing (BA -1.9%) and other aircraft manufacturers are exploring the possibility of single pilot planes in a bid to cut tens of billions of dollars a year in costs of pilot salaries and training. “We are studying that, and where you will first see that is probably in cargo transport, so the passenger question is off the table,” Boeing research and technology VP Charles Toups tells The Guardian. It would take a “couple of decades” to persuade passengers to take a single-pilot jet, Toups says, adding that gaining public support would be a step-by-step process starting with proliferation of self-driving cars. Boeing and Airbus (OTCPK:EADSF, OTCPK:EADSY) jets are designed for two pilots, and taking away one would require a revamp of the flight deck as well as more automated systems so controllers on the ground could take over if necessary.

It’s a public forum, however I’ve spent enough time flying in Canada’s north to know about how things work or sometimes don’t resulting in an accident such as this one. People who live in these isolated communities have flown more than most because its usually the only way in or out. They get to know the pilots (maybe not these days) who fly them and also have a good sense about what’s going on during their flights. A perfectly good airplane departs in clear weather and crashes immediately after getting airborne. I’d say there is a good possibility of an error with the loading of this plane. And if you’re a young pilot who doesn’t like to get your hands dirty someone else may have loaded it for you and made a serious mistake.

Possibly a W&B issue. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

He’d be retired now living in Florida!

The mid 1980’s starting pay of $19,000 had several working elsewhere. A friend of mine continued working his old sporting goods store job to keep afloat. Entry level payscales for young pilots were an issue long before this recent situation but Canada seemed to produce enough qualified candidates annually.

I have several friends who are now flying biz jets in Canada. All for very good organizations but I know not one of them are earning the salaries mentioned in this article. But I can certainly see this part of aviation struggling too in the near future.

Not this guy Malcolm. The first ILS approach in Canada was installed in Moncton, NB. My father did the the ILS instrument installation and calibration on the the MOT aircraft, a Lockheed 10 I believe, which was then test flown by qualified pilots. Today, CATIIIb approaches are flown daily around the world, again by qualified pilots in the most sophisticated aircraft in service. Amazing advancements in aviation, but after 40 years of flying airplanes for a living and knowing what I know can happen to the best laid plan there’s no way I will ever be a passenger in a pilotless aircraft.

No disagreement regarding the current US/CA pilot payscale comparison and it’s been like this for many years. But it does take awhile to get to that level of US pay after making the move south of the border.

Leaving Canada today for a Delta connector job might appeal to a fractional group of newbie 1500hr ATPL’s. Crash pad life style might be better than some northern wilderness but it would be years before you could afford to live near any future ATL, JFK, or LAX mainline DL base. I know a few pilots who left Canada in the mid 80’s to fly in the US. Some due to the shortage and others via green card lottery. I even interviewed/job offer in CVG with Comair at the same time. Starting pay in 1985 was $13,500. Banderante FO. A decent house in northern Kentucky was $40,000. Didn’t accept the offer.

The last time the US opened their doors to Canadian and other foreign pilots was a result of deregulation and a shortage of pilots in tbe US. Other nations including Canada had a surplus with many qualified pilots willing to go. If that option were to repeat itself, only those qualified would be considered (1200hrs min) and what established Canadian pilot would really leave to join the bottom of some other seniority list? Different times and different circumstances.

A Stoney Rapids bound flight departed just prior. Apparently no weather issues. The aircraft was equipped with CVR/FDR and fortunately both pilots survived. Shouldn’t be difficult to solve this crash.

From my own northern flying experience I would focus primarily on two items. In these types of crashes they are sometimes connected. A plane's maintenance history. The weight of a plane's luggage and cargo and how that weight is distributed throughout the plane. Communication between pilots, dispatchers and other on-the-ground airline employees. The field experience of the pilots and how many hours they worked before a flight that crashed.

I hope I am wrong but when there is a lot of growth in this industry the more qualified sometimes move on and smaller outfits are left promoting whomever they have left into more responsible positions. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. With the current hiring at all majors and the planned expansions at each plus large waves of retirement, this might be the result for the little guys serving Canada’s north.

From Global news so...... https://globalnews.ca/news/3927833/tsb-plane-crash-northern-saskatchewan-transportation-safety-board/?utm_source=skies-daily-news-news-from-the-web&utm_campaign=skies-daily-news&utm_medium=email&utm_term=news-news-from-the-web&utm_content=V1

Are you suggesting a repeat of the Trans Asia crash? https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/02/transasia-crash-pilot-pulled-wrong-throttle-shut-down-sole-engine

Amazing there were no fatalities. And I would agree the flaps appear to be extended by the gap shown in the fairing below them. Canada’s north is scattered with DC3’s, C46’s and other older types. Overloaded planes, cold weather ops and engine failures. Nothing has really changed except the equipment we are using. Will be interesting to know the cause in this accident.

ILS/NPA confusion? https://www.aeroinside.com/item/7573/china-eastern-a320-at-wenzhou-on-mar-20th-2011-clipped-trees-on-approach?utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=20160520

The shortage of qualified pilots is becoming more and more real across the globe. Retirement age adjustment may be a solution for some airlines/countries. Japan Air has already increased theirs to 71. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/17/opinion/sunday/plenty-of-passengers-but-where-are-the-pilots.html?referer=

Apparently buying in bulk "Costco" style gives everyone a better price. From what I've read this airplane is a technical nightmare and still a year away from resolving serious flight control software issues. The US Navy did a recent trial (along with a full support team from Locheed) and it was less than successful. Does our RCAF really need this aircraft or can we invest in upgrading the F18?

More of the same. http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/28/pilot-shortage-could-put-strain-airline-industry/

Republic Airlines pilot shortage. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/republic-to-remove-27-aircraft-in-face-of-pilot-shortage-395806/?