I was part of these "focus groups" and I can assure you there was no shortage of data on this fact finding mission. I was also relieved and optimistic when the unedited results were released. Finally, all the issues were on the table and they/we were going to start addressing them. To imply they scrubbed any reconciliation with the majority of the pilot group because a select few decided to forward some dirt to the papers is equally as disturbing as doing nothing at all. Also, there seems to be quite a disconnect here between guys that haven't been affected by any of these recent changes (i.e. bases), and guys that have had their lives turned upside down by downgrading, not upgrading, commuting, or uprooting your entire family across the country etc. There is a completely different perspective from say a senior YYC captain and a junior YYZ captain or FO. In my opinion this unrest and unionization is a direct result of ignoring the issues at hand, and as mentioned above guys are now voting with union cards and their feet. The million dollar question is.. is this sustainable? This will be an interesting year ahead as we venture into an uncharted pilot shortage, yet I suppose time will be the test. If this pilot shortage is as bad as some predict it will come down to supply and demand. If the pay and working conditions don't support it, well, it just becomes "unsustainable".