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  1. Motion M-103 now In Parliament

    this: It seems to me the attitude displayed today is pretty much the same as the one that led to WW 1, II and the near elimination of an entire race.
  2. Fifi and Doc

    see also
  3. The article is informative except where it calls the aircraft "a new toy" it's not a toy, it is a very important tool!!!!! July 26, 2017 5:12 pm 8 Wing welcomes international visitor and gets sneak peek at new search and rescue plane By Morganne Campbell Videographer Global News WATCH ABOVE: Search and rescue personnel at CFB Trenton got a glimpse of their future workplace today. The Brazilian Air Force landed a plane at the base. The fixed-wing Airbus C295 is the same one that Canadian crews will soon be getting. For the Canadian Armed Forces Search and Rescue Teams, there’s no room for failure, every second counts. They perform tasks in near impossible circumstances across the country’s vast and diverse territory. They perform tasks in near impossible circumstances across the country’s vast and diverse territory. Wednesday, the team at 8 Wing CFB Trenton, got a sneak peek at a new toy that will help them keep doing just that but with less room for failure. READ MORE: Search and rescue crews busy as first weekend of summer kicks off “I’m excited the same way as anyone would be in getting a new car,” said Warrant Officer Aaron Bygrove, a Search and Rescue Technician with 424 Squadron. The Brazilian Air Force flew the Airbus C-295 to 8 Wing to train and show off the plane’s capabilities. “We thank our friends in the Brazilian Air Force who are in the early stages of receiving their own C-295s for co-ordinating some of their training activities to take them through Canada,” said Lt.-Gen. Michael Hood, Commander of the Royal Canadian Air Force. “This will enable our members and stakeholders to get a first-hand look at this impressive aircraft that will undoubtedly help save many lives in the decades to come.” Last December, the federal government announced it would spend $28 million in purchasing 16 new search and rescue planes. Ottawa awarded the lucrative contract to European aerospace company Airbus. Ottawa awarded the lucrative contract to European aerospace company Airbus; Not just planes, but a 20-year maintenance contract and training facility that will boost the overall price tag to $4.7 billion. WATCH BELOW: New search-and-rescue air power The C-295 planes are considered a “game-changer” for those responding to emergencies from coast to coast. It features electro-optic infrared which will help make the ‘searching’ part of the job easier. “It’s a good day for our men and women here in search and rescue and when you look at the history of this base in search and rescue it’s one of the main bases,” said Neil Ellis, the MP for the Bay of Quinte riding. The transition to something state of the art is a tall order and requires years of advanced training according, to the Commanding Officer of 424 Squadron, Leighton James. “That’s what the RCAF is working on right now, it’s the transition to this machine. We will have to crawl, walk and run with this aircraft.” The new fixed-wing aircraft will begin arriving at the country’s four Search and Rescue bases, including CFB Trenton, starting in 2019 with the last plane due to arrive in 2022. “Search and rescue operations are a core mission of the Canadian Armed Forces, outlined in our new defence policy, Strong, Secure, Engaged. We are committed to ensuring that the women and men who serve Canada have the equipment and training they need in order to fulfill these key missions,” said Harjit Sajjan, Canada’s Defence Minister. The Brazilian Air Force has showcased the planes at 19 Wing Comox in British Columbia and 17 Wing Winnipeg Manitoba.
  4. Motion M-103 now In Parliament

    There was a lot of other Genocides ,Armenians etc. By the by the Nazi genocide was not in WWI but you might find the following of interest:
  5. Exactly the type of activity that immigrants to Canada need to know is against our laws. Pakistan village council orders 'revenge rape' of girl Copy this link Some 20 people from Multan, Pakistan, have been arrested for ordering the rape of a teenage girl, in revenge for a rape her brother allegedly committed. Police said the families of the two girls are related. Members of both had joined forces to decide what should be done. "A jirga [village council] had ordered the rape of a 16-year-old girl as punishment, as her brother had raped a 12-year-old," police official Allah Baksh told AFP. He said the village council was approached earlier this month by a man who said his 12-year-old sister had been raped by their cousin. The council then ordered the complainant to rape the sister of the accused in return - which police say he did. Pakistan's Dawn newspaper reported that the girl was forced to appear before the group and raped in front of them and her parents. The mothers of the two girls later filed complaints at the local police station. Medical examinations have confirmed rape in both cases.Image copyright AFP/Getty Images Another officer, Ahsan Younas, told BBC Urdu that the first girl to be raped was aged between 12 and 14. The victim of the revenge rape is said to be 16 or 17. He said police had registered a complaint against 25 people, and that the suspect accused of raping the 12-year-old was still at large. While some reports say the group that ordered the rape was a jirga - or village council - BBC sources said it was actually formed by members of the two families. How a rape was filmed and shared in Pakistan Pakistan elders 'ordered girl's death' How a murdered social media star reflects Pakistan India child rape victim in abortion plea Jirgas, a kind of council formed of local elders, often settle disputes in rural Pakistan. However, they are illegal and have been condemned for a series of controversial rulings - including ordering so-called "honour killings" and past incidents of "revenge rape". In 2002, a jirga ordered the gang rape of 28-year-old Mukhtar Mai, whose 12-year-old brother was accused of an affair with an older woman.Image copyright BHASKER SOLANKI/BBC Image caption Mukhtar Mai, pictured in 2011, was gang-raped by order of a tribal council Ms Mai took her rapists to court - an act of extraordinary courage in Pakistan, where sexual assault victims still face considerable stigma. When their convictions were overturned by Pakistan's Supreme Court, she was offered many ways out of the country. However, she chose to stay in her village and start a girls' school and a women's refuge yards away from where she was raped. Profile: Who is Mukhtar Mai? Ms Mai is now a prominent women's rights activist, and her story inspired an opera, "Thumbprint", which opened in New York in 2014.
  6. Double the Pleasure - Maybe?

    Yes but with a mix of fares in each cabin. I suspect they are talking about F (full up) and Y (real cheap one fare level plus the add on charges of course)
  7. Motion M-103 now In Parliament

    DEFCON, there is truth and then there is perception. Comparing world wide attitude towards White People to the genocides that happened during the World Wars is, in my opinion, a very large stretch.
  8. Our Prime Minister

    We don't want Trump but please take Justin. July 26, 2017 9:34 am Updated: July 26, 2017 9:56 am On the cover of the Rolling Stone: ‘Why can’t Justin Trudeau be our president?’ By Amy Minsky National Online Journalist Global News WATCH ABOVE: Justin Trudeau to grace the cover of Rolling Stone The contrasts between Trudeau and Trump are painted starkly in this glowing feature of the prime minister; the leaders stand at opposite ends of the spectrum on international environmental agreements, welcoming immigrants and refugees, and a woman’s right to choose, and whereas Trump’s relations with Russia are in constant question, Trudeau’s pick for foreign minister makes his significantly more clear. WATCH: Trudeau tried to convince Trump the merits of fighting climate change As to which leader the Rolling Stone prefers, that’s made clear on the cover, where the biggest headline reads, “Justin Trudeau: Why can’t he be our president?” Despite Trudeau’s differences with Trump, he’s yet to take the bait when reporters ask exactly what he thinks of the Republican president. The prime minister is quoted telling reporter Stephen Rodrick that although he “disagree with Trump on a whole bunch” of issues, the leaders “also have a constructive working relationship.” And in the spirit of that relationship, Trudeau tempers his reactions. “Me going out of my way to insult the guy or overreact or jump at everything he says [that] we might disagree with is not having a constructive relationship,” he told the magazine. Trudeau follows in the footsteps of former U.S. presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama among the world leaders who have previously fronted the venerable pop-culture magazine. 'Mountain' Police?: Rolling Stone bumbles facts in Trudeau profile Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will grace the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.Josh K. Elliott, Published Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:24PM EDT Rolling Stone magazine’s glowing cover story on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau contains some eyebrow-raising errors about Canada, including a mistake that identified the RCMP as the “Royal Canadian Mountain Police.” The profile is the latest in a series of gushing cover stories about Trudeau in American publications, following on the heels of other features in magazines such as Vogue and Delta Airlines’ in-flight magazine Sky. Rolling Stone writer Stephen Rodrick compares Trudeau in favourable terms to U.S. President Donald Trump, citing his personal and political styles in sharp contrast to the POTUS. Related Stories 'Why Can't He Be Our President?' Justin Trudeau on the cover of Rolling Stone In this file photo, Justin Trudeau is shown surrounded by RCMP at the Moncton Coliseum on June 10, 2014. (Sean Kilpatrick / THE CANADIAN PRESS) However, the story also contains some glaring errors and occasionally bizarre descriptions. “For Trudeau, listening is seducing,” one part of the story reads. Elsewhere, the author favourably compares Trudeau’s appearance to that of Trump. “His hair is a color found in nature,” the article says (as though Trump’s flaxen head of hair is so strange). It also cites Trudeau’s partial Scottish ancestry in the way he “swats away Trump-baiting questions with a look that says, ‘Not today, laddie.’” Och aye, lads and lassies, but that’s just the beginning. The more obvious errors include misidentifying Trudeau’s governing Liberals as the “Liberty Party,” throwing a hyphen in the middle of Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan’s name (“Saj-jan”) and misidentifying the Royal Canadian Mounted Police as the “Royal Canadian Mountain Police.” The story also says Trudeau’s birth on Dec. 25, 1971, was hailed as “King of the North front-page news,” when it was actually overshadowed by an Air Canada hijacking in Cuba.
  9. Looks like Enbridge has the go ahead they needed. Supreme Court quashes seismic testing in Nunavut, but gives green light to Enbridge pipeline Top court delivers landmark rulings on consultation process with Indigenous peoples over energy projects By John Paul Tasker, CBC NewsPosted: Jul 26, 2017 10:04 AM ET Last Updated: Jul 26, 2017 11:35 AM ET Related Stories Chippewas of the Thames Line 9 pipeline appeal dismissed by Supreme Court 'It means everything': Supreme Court to rule on Indigenous relations with energy companies Line 9 battle worth the cost to set history straight says new Chippewa Chief Nunavut seismic testing appeal could help define Canada's duty to consult Indigenous groups Enbridge commits to greater disclosure on Indigenous and environmental issues 'We thought no one would care': Clyde River Inuit flooded with support The Supreme Court of Canada has quashed plans for seismic testing in Nunavut, delivering a major victory to Inuit who argued they were inadequately consulted before the National Energy Board gave oil companies the green light to conduct this disruptive activity. In a unanimous decision handed down Wednesday, written by Justices Karakatsanis and Brown, the top court ruled the NEB's consultation process in Clyde River was "significantly flawed," and gave little, if any, consideration to the treaty rights of Inuit and their reliance on marine mammals for subsistence. The Inuit have said the sound wave technology a Norwegian consortium sought to use in search of oil would have profoundly impacted marine life in the area. In a similar decision released Wednesday, the top court ruled unanimously that Enbridge could proceed with its reversal of the Line 9 pipeline in southwestern Ontario, arguing the Chippewas of the Thames were given enough say ahead of the project's construction. The court sent a shot across the bow in its ruling, warning the NEB and energy project proponents that "any decision affecting Aboriginal or treaty rights made on the basis of inadequate consultation will not be in compliance with the duty to consult." Chippewas of the Thames Line 9 pipeline appeal dismissed by Supreme Court 'It means everything': Supreme Court to rule on Indigenous relations with energy companies But the ruling said consultations are a two-way street and Indigenous Peoples alone should not be given the final say on whether a project should proceed. Aboriginal rights must be balanced against "competing societal interests," the court said. "This does not mean that the interests of Indigenous groups cannot be balanced with other interests at the accommodation stage," the justices wrote. "Indeed, it is for this reason that the duty to consult does not provide Indigenous groups with a 'veto' over final Crown decisions." NEB can consult on behalf of the Crown Significantly, the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government could rely on the NEB to carry out consultation on its behalf. Some Indigenous activists have said a quasi-judicial body tasked with energy regulation should not play that role; the court clearly disagreed. The federal government has a duty to consult with Indigenous people when there is a claim that an Indigenous or treaty right will be breached. The top court found that the NEB, acting as an agent of the crown, simply did not do enough in the Clyde River case, holding only one meeting with the community where officials from the oil company could answer few pressing questions. The significance of this "consultation" process was not explained to the Inuit, the court said. When officials from the company did eventually answer basic questions about the impact on marine mammals such as whales and narwhals, it did so by electronically delivering a 3,926-page document that was virtually inaccessible for residents of the northern locale with limited internet access. The document was largely in English, while residents are overwhelmingly Inuktitut speakers. In Clyde River people rely on hunters for food year round. They argue seismic testing could put their livelihoods at risk. (Elyse Skura/CBC) "To put it mildly, furnishing answers to questions that went to the heart of the treaty rights at stake in the form of a practically inaccessible document dump months after the questions were initially asked in person is not true consultation," the court said. The top court will allow an appeal of a Federal Court of Appeal decision to proceed; that court had ruled the NEB had done enough to satisfy the duty to consult. 'Deep consultation' Importantly, the court also laid out what "deep consultation" with Indigenous people should entail moving forward. It said the NEB is fully equipped to conduct consultations, and should hold oral hearings and use its broad powers to elicit critical information from proponents such as scientific evidence. The NEB should also make money available for Indigenous groups to participate in the process, conduct environmental assessments and make those findings public. The Supreme Court said the NEB did exactly that before allowing Enbridge to reverse a pipeline and transfer heavy crude from Alberta through a pipeline that runs from Sarnia, Ont., to Montreal; the line has already been in active service since 2015. First Nations in the area had argued that the risk of spills could impact their rights and interests. The NEB said legally binding environmental conditions were adequate to accommodate Indigenous concerns. The Chippewas were granted funding to participate as an intervener, they were involved during oral hearings and had the opportunity to present evidence and a final argument. The court said, in this case, consultation was "manifestly adequate." The Chippewas were also able to pose questions to Enbridge, and they received written responses. Chippewas of the Thames Chief Myeengun Henry admits his community was taking a big risk by pursuing a Supreme Court case against Enbridge. 'We’re just trying to stop a very dangerous situation,' he said. ( "The process undertaken by the NEB in this case was sufficient to satisfy the Crown's duty to consult … the NEB sufficiently assessed the potential impacts on the rights of Indigenous groups and found that the risk of negative consequences was minimal and could be mitigated." In a statement Wednesday, Enbridge welcomed the Supreme Court's decision and vowed to continue consultations with First Nations in the area. "Enbridge is absolutely committed to fostering a strengthened relationship with the Chippewas of the Thames First Nation, and all Indigenous communities built upon openness, respect and mutual trust." The Chippewas' request for an appeal of a previous Federal Court decision was dismissed by the Supreme Court. Energy sector uncertainty The decisions come amid a time of uncertainty for Canada's energy sector, and further threats to the federal government's natural resources agenda. On Tuesday, proponents of a massive $11 billion Pacific NorthWest LNG project on B.C.'s coast pulled the plug, less than a year after the Liberal government gave the green light. The Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, which will carry nearly a million barrels of oil a day from Alberta to B.C. for export to Asia, is also hanging in the balance, as new B.C. Premier John Horgan has long opposed its construction. Trans Mountain was approved by the prime minister and his cabinet last November, paving the way for a twinned pipeline that will alleviate capacity issues and help Canada's oil producers collect world prices. The court cases come amid a push by the Liberal government to reform the National Energy Board and "modernize" its operations. An expert panel recently suggested the NEB be scrapped, and be replaced with two new agencies with many of regulatory functions moved from Calgary to Ottawa. The panel also called for "real and substantive" participation from First Nations communities in the decision-making process. "Canadians told us that they expect to see their energy regulator fully realize nation-to-nation relationships with Indigenous Peoples. We agree," the report said.
  10. WAYYYYYY out in LEFT field!

    defcon, it's spreading...... Wisconsin company offers microchip implants to employees Company says it is first in United States to offer the technology to staff Thomson ReutersPosted: Jul 26, 2017 10:35 AM ET Last Updated: Jul 26, 2017 10:47 AM ET Related Stories Microchipped office workers open doors with the swipe of a hand Microchip me: In defence of the implant A Wisconsin vending machine company is offering its employees a chance to have a microchip implanted in their hands that they could use to buy snacks, log in to computers or use the copy machine. About 50 employees at Three Square Market have agreed to the optional implant of the chips, which are the approximate size and shape of a grain of rice, said Tony Danna, vice president of international sales at the River Falls-based company. The company, which employs 85, said it was the first in the United States to offer staff the technology which is similar to that used by contactless credit cards and chips used to identify pets. The implants made by Sweden's BioHax International are part of a long-term test aimed to see if the radio-frequency identification chips could have broader commercial applications, Danna said. "We've done the research and we're pretty well educated about this," Danna said in an interview. Chip party The company is holding an Aug. 1 "chip party" where employees will have the device inserted between their forefinger and thumb using a syringe-like instrument. The RFID chips use electromagnetic fields to communicate and can be read at a distance of no more than six inches (15 centimetres), Danna said. Critics of using chips in humans include Nevada State Senator Becky Harris, who in February introduced legislation that would make forced installation of microchips illegal. "It is possible to hack the information that is contained within the chips," Harris told a state Senate judiciary committee meeting at the time. The company's CEO Todd Westby in a statement predicted the technology could become popular among companies. "Eventually, this technology will become standardized allowing you to use this as your passport, public transit, all purchasing opportunities, etc.," he said.
  11. Motion M-103 now In Parliament

    Defcon, I really do think your pov in this regard is extremely pessimistic. But I guess you will soon be heading for the hills.
  12. National Disgrace

    And another sign that the project is in trouble. Warship design deadline goes off the radar Shipbuilding competition left open-ended Calgary Herald 26 Jul 2017 LEE BERTHIAUME The Canadian Press ANDREW VAUGHAN / THE CANADIAN PRESS Sections of the HMCS Harry DeWolf are shown at Irving Shipbuilding’s Halifax shipyard. A competition to replace the navy’s warship fleet is in limbo because the federal Liberals haven’t established a deadline for submissions. The plan to replace the navy’s warship fleet is officially sailing uncharted waters, with an important deadline for the $60-billion project having all but vanished. The government says it continues to work with industry to deliver the warships the navy needs, and a new deadline will be set soon. But defence experts say the development is unprecedented, and raises fresh concerns about what is the largest planned military purchase in Canadian history. The federal government launched a competition last fall in which a dozen of the world’s largest defence and shipbuilding firms were asked to design potential replacements for the navy’s frigates and destroyers. The companies were initially given until the end of April to submit designs, after which one would be selected for construction by Irving Shipbuilding in Halifax. But the competition is now in limbo, with no established deadline for designs to be submitted since the government extended the competition for a second time in May. Both Public Services Minister Judy Foote’s office and Irving Shipbuilding, which is running the competition on the government’s behalf, confirmed a new submission deadline has not been set. Officials initially said they needed more time to finish answering the approximately 560 questions participating firms asked about the bidding process since the competition was launched last fall. The focus now is on what is called a voluntary compliance review, in which companies can provide draft copies of their submissions to the government and Irving to ensure they are on the right track. Foote spokeswoman Mary-Rose Brown declined to say how many companies decided to participate in the voluntary review, or when it will be complete. “When it comes to shipbuilding, we are committed to getting the women and men of the Royal Canadian Navy and the Canadian Coast Guard the equipment they need to do their jobs,” Brown said in an email. “We are committed to open, fair and transparent procurement processes. To maximize value for Canadians, we continue to work in close partnership with industry.” Irving spokesman Sean Lewis said companies will be notified of the final submission deadline once the review is complete. The lack of an established end-date has sparked fresh concern about the project. “I haven’t heard of it before,” said Alan Williams, who served as National Defence’s top procurement official from 2000 to 2005. “How can you not have a deadline if you have a (competition)? It’s bizarro.” Williams worried messing with the deadline while the competition is ongoing could open up the government to legal challenges from any company whose design isn’t chosen. “It can significantly damage the Crown in terms of legal action in the sense that someone could claim they would have won if they had simply set a date, but they kept dragging this out,” he said. Defence analyst David Perry of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute said his concern is the uncertainty around this aspect of the competition is reflective of bigger issues within the warship project. There have already been questions about Irving’s role in running the competition, and anger from some companies that British firm BAE could enter its Type 26 vessel despite the ship having never been built. Defence officials and Irving have also previously warned time is of the essence, and that they are trying to shave 18 to 24 months off the project. And some companies have privately railed against the amount of valuable intellectual property they are being asked to hand over to the government and Irving in order to participate. “I think it’s unusual to have this level of effort and rework going into the bid documents after they’ve come out,” Perry said. “My sense is (the competition) just wasn’t ready for prime time when they released it.” HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE A DEADLINE IF YOU HAVE A (COMPETITION)?
  13. National Disgrace

    Another factor may hamper our plans to build ships for our navy Intellectual property could be key as Canada and U.S. compete for frigate-building bids Bidders might choose to participate in 'one, but not both' shipbuilding projects, analyst says By Murray Brewster, CBC NewsPosted: Jul 23, 2017 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Jul 23, 2017 5:00 AM ET The French navy FREMM-class frigate Aquitaine rests in Halifax back in April 2013. The Paris-based naval contractor Naval Group (formerly DCNS) wants Canada to consider the frigates for the Canadian Surface Combatant program. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press) About The Author Murray Brewster Defence and security Murray Brewster is senior defence writer for CBC News, based in Ottawa. He has covered the Canadian military and foreign policy from Parliament Hill for over a decade. Among other assignments, he spent a total of 15 months on the ground covering the Afghan war for The Canadian Press. Prior to that, he covered defence issues and politics for CP in Nova Scotia for 11 years and was bureau chief for Standard Broadcast News in Ottawa. Follow @Murray_Brewster on Twitter More from Murray Brewster Related Stories Navy frigate program faces 'high risk of failure' unless tender changed, bidder says Control of design data is Canadian frigates' first battle Ottawa urged to buy more ships for coast guard to maintain work at Halifax shipyard Tories demand no 'blank cheques' in frigate replacement program Liberals mull extension to frigate design deadline Multibillion-dollar naval warship project hits another delay The U.S. navy is in the market for up to 20 patrol frigates in a multibillion-dollar program that one defence expert says could cut into Canada's plans for its own, more modest project. Not only is the American program more lucrative, but Canada's intellectual property demands could put it at a further disadvantage in the fight for international bidders, says defence analyst Danny Lam. The Pentagon issued a request for information to the defence industry on July 10 for its new warship program. It proposes to open up competition to foreign designs in a manner similar to the Liberal government. Lam says both programs have very similar requirements, but the Americans are moving more aggressively and want to begin construction on the first frigate in 2020. The Canadian program, on the other hand, remains on schedule for the "early 2020s," according to Public Works and Procurement Services Canada. Bidder urges overhaul of design tender in $60B navy frigate program Backroom battle underway over new frigate design data Perhaps more importantly, Lam said, is the backroom dispute over intellectual property rights that's been raging for over a year between ship designers and the Liberal government. Ship designers from France, Britain, Italy and the U.S., among others, are part of the Canadian competition. Some of the 12 bidders, particularly those with designs dependant on electronics developed in conjunction with their home governments, have balked at the amount of technical data being requested by the Canadian government. The USS Detroit, one of the U.S. navy's Freedom-class littoral combat ships. On July 10, the navy issued a request for information for a new frigate-building program. (U.S. Navy/Lockheed Martin/Provided ) Defence and procurement officials have insisted the information is necessary to maintain the new fleet in the decades to come. Part of the issue, Lam said, is the fact the nearly $60-billion Canadian program is being managed by an outside company, Halifax-based Irving Shipbuilding. He said companies are concerned their data could be appropriated and used by Irving, or others in the industry, to come up with an entirely new warship design. Irving officials, speaking on background in the past, have dismissed that concern. Lam also predicted that once the project's database is established, the Canadian program will become a top target for Chinese, Russian and North Korean hackers, who would try to steal the information. As such, the U.S. government would likely have significant security concerns about those companies participating in the Canadian program, Lam said. "They can participate in one or the other, but not both programs." Government wants intellectual property Warship design proposals were supposed to have been submitted to Irving and the Canadian government last spring, but the deadline was pushed off until late summer. Officials at Irving would not comment on the project. A Public Works spokesperson dismissed Lam's arguments, noting there are already roughly 100 ships being built in the U.S. "We do not anticipate that the start of another [U.S. government] shipbuilding program will materially impact bidders' interest in Canada's CSC project," Nicolas Boucher said in an email. "We do not anticipate that the number of bidders will be reduced." Irving concerned 'speed of decision-making' in Ottawa will add to shipbuilding gap He also defended Canada's intellectual property demands. "The issue of intellectual property has been the focus of considerable engagement with the 12 pre-qualified bidders" throughout the process, he said. "The government is seeking the rights to use and maintain the [surface combatant] ships for the duration of their life. This includes owning the information that the government paid to develop during the design contract and to obtain a licence to use the pre-existing information which is required to design, build, train, operate, dispose and maintain the ships." The companies bidding to supply the design and help with the construction of the Canadian warships have already spent millions of dollars to prepare for the competition and that could be incentive enough to stay in it.
  14. Motion M-103 now In Parliament

    Come on. I guess you forgot the sarcasm simile.
  15. deicer, I think the real reason is because of delays in approval etc. they missed the boat that others jumped on. Here is a story re the impact of the decision. July 25, 2017 10:31 pm Updated: July 26, 2017 12:26 am Disappointment on B.C.’s north coast as Pacific NorthWest LNG scrapped By Simon Little and Emily Lazatin CKNW Tue, Jul 25: What was supposed to be the biggest investment in the province’s history is dead after Petronas pulled the plug on its $36-billion LNG mega-project on B.C.’s north coast. Keith Baldrey has more on the decision and reaction. The decision by Malaysian energy giant Petronas to pull the plug on a proposed multi-billion dollar LNG project on B.C.’s north coast is being met with disappointment from communities in the area. The Pacific Northwest LNG board announced on Tuesday that it would not proceed with a $36-billion export terminal at Lelu Island, near Prince Rupert. The company cited depressed global prices for natural gas and shifting market conditions for the decision. In Port Edward, the community nearest to where the plant would have been, the loss is personal. “I am disappointed. I’d hoped it would go forward,” said Mayor Dave MacDonald. MacDonald said many in the community have left to find work in Fort St. John and Fort McMurray, and he’d hoped the plant would boost the economy and pull families back together. “We believe in working with our partners in the whole area, Prince Rupert and the native villages, we were hoping the whole area was going to expand.” In Terrace, about an hour east of the proposed site, the decision is being seen by some as a major blow. Carol Leclerc, the community’s mayor, said the project held the promise of long-term, stable jobs. “Operational jobs, [there] was probably 300 or 400 jobs for the next 25 to 30 years or longer, you know it’s really disheartening,” she said. “What happens in Prince Rupert and Port Edward impacts Terrace and whatever happens in Terrace also impacts communities in the northwest. It’s just really sad, there was lots of hope.” In Kitimat, about 60 kilometres to the south, reaction has been more muted. Mayor Phil Germuth admits there were some in the community who were banking on a potential job. But he said the decision to pull out won’t sink the region’s economy. “It doesn’t affect our projects here. The three projects, you know your big ones — Pacific Northwest, LNG Canada, and Kitimat LNG. They weren’t really in competition with each other. For one of them to have to make that decision doesn’t affect as much here.” Germuth said he’s more concerned about competition with the established players in the LNG market, like the U.S. and Australia, that have already laid the groundwork for major projects. “They already have pipelines going to some of these facilities, they have a lot of the infrastructure in place. Those are the ones that we are actually competing with on a cost basis of trying to get things up and running.” Earlier Tuesday, NDP Energy Minister Michelle Mungall said the government remained committed to the nearly 20 other B.C. LNG projects still on the drawing board. She said she would be meeting with stakeholders to reassure them that the province remains open for business.