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  1. Longranger

    Swoop Tagged With Complaint

    Yes, exactly why I made the reference to the federal government now in office, and you would hope that they had some idea of how the business model of ULCC’s work. As well we all know that lawyers and judges make a good living interpreting the law, even if the language does seem clear to some of us when we read them. Parliament can also change laws, or do it via an order in council, which sidesteps parliament altogether.
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    Swoop Tagged With Complaint

    Interesting article, it’s generating a lot of free PR for Swoop, and it shows Gabor’s lack of knowledge of what a ULCC is compared to an LCC, and especially his example of a full service airline such as Air Canada. An apples to oranges comparison, and it’s the Federal Government which has been actively encouraging ULCC’s to start up in Canada, and why they changed and raised the foreign ownership rules up to 49% for new ULCC’s. It’s pretty clear on the website that a checked back is extra and escalates in price if not done online, and that the base fare is only for the seat. This guy is teaching at university and can’t read that? The PR dept at Swoop must be laughing at all the free exposure and hits to the website for zero cost. It’s really not a complicated fare structure to understand, and I guess he’s never heard of unbundled fares and only paying for what you want..... just like any ULCC in the world.
  3. Longranger

    Westjet Founder Ordering A220's

    Neelman cofounded Morris Air which was bought and merged into SouthWest, provided startup advice to WestJet, started JetBlue, as was already mentioned, and started up Azul in Brazil, and is co-owner in the turn around at 73 year old TAP Air Portugal. All of these are successful, and this latest venture, if you go by his track record should be as well.
  4. Longranger

    Swoop News and Other Changes at WestJet

    That is not based on facts, if you look at continuous raises every year during that time, expansion, upgrades, and Encore which was on a one date of hire list under the previous structure , but is probably impossible with the ALPA structure, 767 expansion with 787 to follow in 2018. The amount of pilots if you include Encore has almost doubled to 2,000 over the last 7 years. As well continous generous ESP at 20% of any straight time earnings, profit share over 10% of straight time earnings over the last 10 years, Stock options, RSU’s OPA etc. Have there been challenges and setbacks, of course, which is normal in any company, such as losing ports and going to more then one base, to the present threebase YYC, YYZ and YVR system. Under the previous structure with the WJPA, WestJet had committed to using all pilots from the one list, but that is up in the air now. For 22 years, WJ had kept it’s commitment to use pilots from our list, and it’s ironic that one of the main catalysts for ALPA being certified at WJ, was Swoop, and so far in one year, not one pilot from WJ is working at Swoop. Interesting times indeed, and let’s hope that cooler heads prevail on all sides, because there is a bright future if people work together, but it has to be built on realistic expectations, and with ALPA setting expectations really high, even though they officially deny that, facts do matter, and too bad that more people didn’t pay attention to those such as what the total compensation relative to our collegues was rather then the fickle comparison of “take home pay” on each of 26 paycheques, which not the true picture of compensation.
  5. You are bang on, and misinformation is rampant in the Flight Attendent ranks as well, on a whole host of issues including the topic under discussion on this thread. With social media now, it’s amazing how distorted information and untruths get spread and people take it as the truth. The majority of people now get their news and information from Facebook, and if as has come out now, Facebook had an undue influence on the U.S. election, and even Brexit, and on pipeline and environmental policy in Canada. As well add in a natural bias at the CBC, where this whole article originated toward union support, as well as other news outlets picking up the story, without doing any independent journalism research on their own (maybe due to cutbacks in staff etc), and you have a case of a story taking on a life of it’s own. There are Flight Attendents at WJ with T4’s well over $100,000, but that wouldn’t make very good headlines with the CBC would it.... As has already been mentioned on this thread, this is Industry standard, (with variations at individual airlines) Flight Attendants at WJ were paid on Duty time years ago, but voted in the negotiated present agreement by a majority.
  6. I’ve worked for 11 aviation companies, the Best (by far) was non Union...WestJet.
  7. The numbers don’t lie, unless you only read one side of the story, such as the ALPA compensation comparator document which conveniently omits major compensation additions which adds at least 30 percent and up increase in total compensation when comparing WJ pilots to other airlines, and isnt even mentioned or compared to AC or AT, on hourly cockpit costs, block hourly and many other comparators, so is not an apples to apples comparison. When you do the math, it’s really pretty simple, but it has to be done honestly, and it’s just a different way of getting paid then the traditional airline model, but has resulted in greater upside and T4’s for almost 22 years for WJ pilots, ESPECIALLY for those that took a bit of time to understand and take advantage of it’s greater money making ability then the traditional model. Please spare us the usual adversarial rhetoric, and stick to the facts, as they stand on their own merits.
  8. That is an interesting statement since WJ is unique in Canada if not North America, in sharing any gains and profits with it’s pilots and other employees through it’s meaningful profit sharing, 20% stock purchase plan, stock options, restricted share units, owners performance awards etc, aside from unlimited ability to earn extra through overtime and pickup, if someone is interested. When the company does well, the pilots get a significant piece of the upside. The T4 numbers don’t lie. That is still the case today, as it has been for almost 22 years, and some people still can’t get their head around our compensation system, even though it is quite simple.
  9. Is anyone who has been watching the airline scene in Canada really surprised? With up to 20 787-9’s coming the need for feed is important for success. It makes sense to build the feed before, and not after, as there are too many examples in Canada of airlines operating WB’s and having little to no feed and trying to do it afterwards. Never a dull moment in this business.
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    Encore Pilots Have Numbers to Unionize

    Not sure where you get your information from but only two pilots have left WJ this year to go to AC, out of over 1500 pilots, or are you talking about Encore?