Well Moeman, First off, its comments like that that keeps people off this board. What, this is a small "boys club"? So many people cruise this board and would love to contribute, I assume, but don't out of fear of being jumped on. Thanks for the confirmation. I have not posted a comment, an opinion, suggestion et al regarding this industry, so why would I have to disclose anything? Maybe the boards creator should go back to a "members only" as it is obvious you took offense to my question and it appears that you are not in favor of any new "blood" here shall we say. If I was spouting off on a regular basis suggesting what employee groups should or should not do, how an airline should or should not be run, crunching numbers and all that stuff then I would be forward with my credentials. Thanks to the reply on my question (the original)...I now know the answer. No biggie..no biggie at all. I will keep it to myself. I have no intention of flaming anybody..and by the way, I'm just a person who has put in over 25yrs in this industry and no, I'm not AC management or anything else...just a regular smuck trying to hang on for another little while and get the heck outta here. Here ya go moeman....the board is all yours....don't even bother with a reply cause I'm back to watching this mess from the outside.