Federal Election
#1
Posted 25 May 2004 - 03:28 AM
#2
Posted 25 May 2004 - 04:20 AM
The Bloc should be gone! Those who allow it to exist should be thrown in the hoosgow for treason or sedition... or at the very least, tarred & feathered!
#3
Posted 25 May 2004 - 04:50 AM
If you want a better country,then demand better government.
#4
Posted 25 May 2004 - 04:53 AM
LOL
Thats some strong opinions about the Bloc Mitch!! I have to admit that I though like you did before I moved to Quebec (I am from Ontario) but I now see some of the logic used to justify the blocs existance. Many people living here in Quebec are hard core sovereignists.They don't care about the federal parties which seem to be full of scandals (whether you look at the Mulroney clan or the Chretien-Martin Clan).
In my humble opinion,I think that the people who do vote for the bloc,are the people who want nothing to do with the liberals,and yet want a party that will represent their interests (separating) at the national level.
I can't say I agree that having the bloc as a federal party is of much use for quebecers but the alternatives are few and far between.I think Jack layton's NDP party would be aligned with what alot of quebecers want. That party seems to lack the proper members in quebec to get good results.
Eric
#5
Posted 25 May 2004 - 05:10 AM
Mitch
#6
Posted 25 May 2004 - 05:17 AM
| QUOTE (Mitch Cronin @ May 25 2004, 09:10 AM) |
| If some of Quebec's residents wish to leave Canada, they should bloody well do so, but they can't take part of my country with them! Mitch |
And they better turn in their Canadian Passports and develop their own currency
#7
Posted 25 May 2004 - 05:35 AM
#8
Posted 25 May 2004 - 05:54 AM
I think that if the feds would give more freedom to the provinces,more authority,more say in the mathers that concern them, most of this separation crap would disapear. Ottawa seems to try to micromanage everything regardless of wheter or not it is in their jurisdiction.
Just take this election taking place.....The Martin clan is trying to impress voters by comitting more money to health care.They will offer 3 billion dollars to fix health care.... and yet that money will come with all kinds of strings attached!!How can they do that??In Quebec,(if my memory serves me right)The feds cover approx 16% of health care cost,and yet.... they expect to control the whole system!!
How is that appropriate?If you want to have an equal say in how the health care system should run,they should be contributing an equal share.
Thats just the tip of the iceberg Mitch, the mentality in quebec is alot diferent then the mentality in Ontario or Manitoba(the provinces I am familiar with).If you have a closer look,you will notice that quebec is one of the provinces with the most social programs.Whether its 7$ /day day-care or the free health care drugs for the poor, Quebec has more social programs then all provinces.Take this paternity leave program Ottawa has just agreed to improve,even with the improvements,it still doesn't meet the quality of the present program enjoyed by quebecers.
Eric
#9
Posted 25 May 2004 - 06:07 AM
#10
Posted 25 May 2004 - 08:52 AM
#11
Posted 25 May 2004 - 08:57 AM
| QUOTE (Kip Powick @ May 25 2004, 07:17 AM) |
| "And they better turn in their Canadian Passports and develop their own currency" |
I don't know what good our passport is Kip, it's turned into a passport of convenience these days... Look at the Khadr family, she's "lost" so many passports that the Government won't issue her one anymore, and yet she still travels freely about the world "using" Canadian citizenship.
The passport office doesn't "talk" to the border service about lost/missing/flagged passports citing right to privacy issues...
In this age of "hyphenated" Canadians what does a passport mean? What does the citizenship oath mean to the people who recite it verbatim and then proceed to ignore the values that we as Canadians have?
The whole immigration department needs a rethink from the ground up.
No Kip, I'm not ready to "play dead"...
#12
Posted 25 May 2004 - 12:10 PM
Stephen Harper would destroy Canada,
#13
Posted 25 May 2004 - 12:50 PM
#14
Posted 25 May 2004 - 12:53 PM
#15
Posted 25 May 2004 - 01:26 PM
| QUOTE (Super 80 @ May 25 2004, 02:53 PM) |
| "... bankrupt the federal government with a Bush style tax policy." |
As opposed to the Tax and Horde policy they've got now? Tax Canadian's and their companies to death and then brag about how much money they've got as a surplus!
Meanwhile,
- Veteran’s are dying and being laid to rest in unmarked graves, because the Veteran’s dept. can not come up with $400 to buy a headstone.
- Our Soldiers are being sent into harm’s way with obsolete equipment that can not protect these brave men’s lives.
- We have vehicles overseas that operate on a different fuel than our NATO allies, and we do not have the means of transporting the diesel fuel we alone still use.
- We have the opportunity to “piggyback” on the U.S. military purchase of vehicles for our servicemen, but decline so that the “politicians” may decide where the next round of pork may be distributed.
- Adrienne Clarkson as Governor General for Canada has the audacity to tell Parliament that she is “above politics” and doesn’t need to justify her budget or actions.
Yes, let's all hear it for FOUR (4) more years of the Liberals at the trough...
I will not be voting Liberal.
#16
Posted 25 May 2004 - 01:37 PM
| QUOTE (Steam Driven @ May 25 2004, 05:26 PM) |
I will not be voting Liberal. |
So as far as the Federal Election is concerned....it would be OK to put you down as "undecided"?
#17
Posted 25 May 2004 - 01:51 PM
#18
Posted 25 May 2004 - 02:37 PM
If anyone is considering voting Liberal yet again then you get what you deserve. In spite of my tempered respect for Paul Martin as an individual, he will stoop to the historic lows of Liberal politics, as he has already proven with his inane advertisements regarding the Conservative party. When will the average Canadian realize that the garbage thrown at us regarding the conservatives from the liberals, is unfactual. We live in societies in the western world based on paranoia and fear, in spite of our privileged place.
I now base my voting decisions on past performance. The Liberals in the past 10 years have been a terrible government and have irrepairably damaged the Canadian image on the world stage and also from an economic point of view. Who was the mid 50's Liberal PM (sorry forgot his name at this moment), ( Pearson i believe).....who said that Canada would be one of the leading nations of the world in the future. I have come to realize that we are a joke around the world. We are respected only by those who seek our refuge. Those who seek an easier way of life in comparison to their present conditions. It is common knowledge that Canada is the place to go if you want something for nothing. If you disagree with me, then you haven't discussed and talked to most other people from around the world. It is not respect for our government or our ideals or our ingenuity. It is simply a realization that its a gravy train
We have such a great country and it is being ruined by those individuals such as JKalafian, who feel it is acceptable to be a pansie and base viewpoints and decisions on catering to the whim of those in power. The most capable, the most intelligent and the most worthy individuals should reap the rewards. Of course we should take into account those less fortunate, but not to the detriment of the average individual.
This country has lost its way. I am so sad about that, considering our potential.
For those considering voting Liberal, you should be ashamed. There is no excuse for the past Liberal governments, in particular Jean Chretiens'. But if that is your decision then i have to respect that, in spite of the obvious madness of it all.
#19
Posted 25 May 2004 - 02:54 PM
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